Jennifer Van Syckle 0:00 Imagine being a wild and crazy teenager, a busy college student, or a sports reporter with a hectic schedule. Now imagine having to juggle all of that in every stage of life with type one diabetes. Jake Sorich. Today's guest is here to share his crazy tales, interesting adventures and advice and his story that came from being diagnosed and living with type one diabetes. Well, I Googled you after your Great Falls. Oh, and I went holy cow. You wrote this book about The Cabbage Patch. Yeah. And I'm like, Oh, how do I know that? Because I'm from the Butte area, too. And I know about The Cabbage Patch. I love beaut history. And so is it still available to buy? Jake Sorich 0:53 We have it Yeah, you can get it bookstores in Butte have ite. We have a website, old Butte publishing.com. And it's available there as well as my second book on M & M. And when did that one come out with that that came out. And so the cabbage patch came out in 2020. And M & M was 2021. Right after. So it burned down in May of 21. And I finished the book in November of 21. Jennifer Van Syckle 1:20 Do you have another book in the works? Are you working on anything? Jake Sorich 1:23 Well, I'm switching gears. I'm doing a fiction book. So I thought I'd mix it up a little bit. But I'm also my grandpa's also getting me on a different project. That could be a book. So stay tuned, I guess. Awesome. Jennifer Van Syckle 1:39 I could sit here and talk Butte history with you all day long. My coworkers know how crazy I am about about you. So I'd still consider at home. But you became a newspaperman in Butte right? Jake Sorich 1:53 I had been a newspaper person before. Yeah. So I graduated from University of Montana with with a degree in journalism. I was the sports editor of the Kaiman, the student newspaper there. And then I wanted to be a sports reporter. Because I love sports. I still love sports. And I thought, well, if I can't play sports, I can write about them. So that was always my first goal. And that's why I went to college to become a sports journalist. And then I got a job in Anaconda. As a sports reporter. I decided that yeah, I still want to be a journalist, maybe just not sports anymore. So I can let that be my passion and just kind of have that as my passion. So I moved to California. I got a job in Redding, California. And I was a copy editor there for about a year. Of course, it was also in 2007 2008. And that was kind of a chaotic. Time for everyone. Yeah, yeah. So I got laid off from that job in two in early 2008. That's when I got hired at the Great Falls Tribune. And I said, I was never gonna go back into sports. But it was a sports copy editing job. So I took that and I thought, well, if I'm copying, editing sports, I'm not writing about them. So they can still go to games and enjoy them. Jennifer Van Syckle 3:18 I'm looking at the copy editor do then Jake, compared to being the journalist and writing just, it's kind Jake Sorich 3:24 of the it's kind of the back end. It's the less sexy work, because you know, your name is not on it. And you're not writing about what's happening. But it's super, super important. It's basically ensuring that the product that goes out is accurate. And it looks good. And it's compelling. So, so yeah, so I did that for about about a year. And then I got laid off from that job, too. But luckily enough, they were impressed with me. And they, they really thought I did a good job. So I got rehired a year later, to be the hot ticket entertainment reporter here in Great Falls. And so I did that for about six years. Yeah. So that was my journalism career. Jennifer Van Syckle 4:10 Yeah. And now you're in Great Falls working at the library. What do you do at the library? I Jake Sorich 4:16 am the Communications Coordinator for the Great Falls library. And I started in early September. So I promote the library. I do press releases, I do the social media, I do a lot of photos. So after we get done, like for instance, after we get done with this, I'm going to take photos. We're having an author here, we're giving a speech tonight, so I'll be taking photos of her and maybe I'll do a live video of just to kind of get a preview snippet of what's going on. So just basically my job is to help promote what's going on at the library. And all the library services Yeah, Jennifer Van Syckle 4:57 awesome. As I'm thinking Got your whole journey here? You have type one diabetes? Yes. And so, to me that whole journey of being laid off multiple times, traveling, moving to Northern California, just seems like it would be so much more difficult. So how old Jake, were you when you got diagnosed with diabetes? Jake Sorich 5:20 I was a freshman in high school. Jennifer Van Syckle 5:22 What kind of sent to the doctor first thought it was a cold. Jake Sorich 5:26 I just thought I was real sick. And then I was just like, oh, man, I feel like I'm sweating. And my mouth tastes funny. I remember feeling tired, when I shouldn't be tired is like I just woke up. And now I'm tired. Why? And so what kind of brought me to the hospital, the doctor, I think I went to the hospital. I had a paper route. So it was it was on my paper route at the time. And I was delivered. You know, my dad was helping me he was taking one side of the street, I was taking the other. And I got to this house, I was about to throw the paper, and I collapsed into the yard. So I was just sitting there in the snow. I couldn't get up. I'm just like, I can't move what what's happening? I'm sick. What's going on? So my dad saw me, because he was on the other end. He said, Jake, what's happening? And then he says, I need help. And then he took me up to the hospital. And they ran some tests. And yeah, I think my, my blood sugar was like in the five hundreds or six hundreds or something. So it was a pretty, they knew right away what what was going on, you know, and as I think mostly most often happens, you know, it's, it's usually you're not usually wondering if you're a type one diabetic, like, especially when it happens like that, but yeah, so that was pretty much okay, I have it now what is it? Jennifer Van Syckle 6:48 Did you end up having to be in the intensive care unit or anything like that for a while to get Jake Sorich 6:54 sick? I was there for it wasn't that long, it was for like a day. And you know, they just kind of got me back up. And the made sure my numbers were fine. And, you know, it was just kind of the standard, what happens when you go into the hospital if you have an episode kind of thing. And they kind of explained what it was, to me what you know, and I, in fact, you know, I was that was probably in the 90s Yeah, it was in the 90s. So, you know, a lot of the technology that is available now didn't exist. So I you know, I was taking injections, and I was just you know, poking my finger. And you know, which even to the early days when people were testing their urine, you know, it had even been a kind of long time from from that and but it's even come the technology for diabetes is in common even further now. From where it was then. So it's a lot to take in for anyone but especially I think when you're in high school, you're you're dealing with all your your regular high school stuff, and then you got this on top of it. So yeah, so it was a it was a lot to kind of take in at first but and Jennifer Van Syckle 8:03 how how did your family handle it? Like what? What did your parents do? Did you guys get some readily available diabetes education? Or were they on the then internet with whatever limited stuff? Was there are books are what how did your family react? And what did you guys do with this diagnosis? Jake Sorich 8:23 Um, you know, it goes into kind of the, the, the breadth of the, you have the honeymoon phase, and then you have the the realization phase of what you have. And then you have the Okay, this is my new reality type things. So, I think that goes for your family members as well. You have the first phase, we're like, Well, maybe it's not so bad. And actually, you know, my numbers are okay, now maybe this will be alright. And, yeah, I'm gonna beat it. That kind of thing. But, you know, we were aware of that, you know, the doctors, they had, you know, kind of given us a heads up that then that's kind of the normal progression to go through. But we, I think we really adjusted our, how we what we eat, and made sure that I was I was already pretty rather active in high school, I did cross country and track. So, you know, my exercising was never really, you know, it wasn't like, I was playing video games all the time or anything. I was pretty active kids. So that wasn't much of an issue. So I think it was, knowing what it was and making some necessary adjustments. And I think it was harder for my family sometimes in that. I knew maybe what I needed, but they kind of wanted to do as much as they could to know what they needed. And, and when you're, you know, when you're a teenager you you don't want your parents you know, kind of over your shoulder looking at you and doing what you want all the time. So it was you know, that's that's kind of a natural kind of butting of heads. little bit and then with diabetes on top of that, it can you know, it's it was a little stressful at times because I would be like, well, I know I'm going to go eat this pizza and hang out with my friends and they're going to have beer and I'm going to drink, you know, and then my mom would be like, Jake, you first you're only 16 You can't be drinking, you know that. And then you got your diabetes to contend with. So you shouldn't do that at all, either. And so it's like, yeah, you're right. I wasn't much of an arguer, you know, Jennifer Van Syckle 10:31 at least you were a compliance classic teenager. Jake Sorich 10:33 So yeah, yeah, it was, it was hard. You know, it was definitely having it when you're when you're a teen is hard. But having it whenever you have it is hard. You know, I don't think there's, there's an age where you have diabetes, and it's somehow not as time consuming or all consuming to your life. So that answers your question. Yeah. Jennifer Van Syckle 10:57 So did you ever have times where I don't I don't know what I want to call them like, oh, moments, thanks to the diabetes like major hypoglycemia, where your blood pressure drops? Has it thrown you for a roller coaster at all? Jake Sorich 11:12 Yeah, where to start? I went to college. And I was on my own. I think the first one I was thinking about this earlier today, I want to talk about this. I had a moment where I don't know if it was fate. I don't know what it was. But I I was so lucky to survive. And I don't know how I did and I just with this higher power of faith, God, whatever you want to call it. So I was going to a friend's house. And they were just going to hang out there. And I was driving I had a an old car that I was driving and I could feel that my blood sugar was starting to drop. And part of it was I wasn't testing my blood sugar as much as I should have. I would go weeks and weeks without testing which now seems Yeah. Now. What the hell are you? Were you thinking like, why would you do that? But that's kind of how, you know, I thought I was invincible type thing. But so I could feel that my blood sugar was starting to drop. And I said, Okay, I will go to the gas station, I'll drive to the gas station, I will get some Skittles. I got some Skittles. I pulled out of the gas station. And I passed out. The next thing I remember is I was in the hospital rooms. That's the next thing I remembered. So and what happened was, I still end up just talking about this, it just I don't know, I wish I could go back in time and shake myself sometimes I honestly do. But I passed out while I was driving. And I ran into a truck. And someone saw the car on the side of the road. They called the ambulance. They brought me in the hospital. They got my blood sugar up. And it was disturbing that well. Firstly, it was disturbing that looking at it now from my perspective now that I would have let it get to that point where I would go so low and I would be so irresponsible to would be driving when I was out. Well, that never happened. I was probably you know, in the 20s 30s as far as my numbers go, I don't know what's normal. Jennifer Van Syckle 13:30 Jake, what's what would be normal for people from from Yeah, Jake Sorich 13:34 for so for normal numbers is like 80 to 180. But if I'm in within that range, I like to be you know, 130 is like the dead set middle where I'm like, Okay, I'm doing good. If I'm 180 Um, you know, might be a little high side. And if I'm like, at 70 I'm getting low. So anything below 80 You're like, oh, this is child this could be trouble. So at the hospital, they got me to and this is yeah, someone brought you in you were in a car the car had had hit another vehicle. And they got me back to and then I didn't have a ride. I decided and again, this was my, like 19 year old self. You want to go back and shake but I left the hospital was dark out. I left the hospital on foot. And I was gonna go find my car. So I there was just a lot of coincidences that I could have been a lot worse. So I started walking and I was I thought I was walking towards campus in Missoula. Turns out I was walking the opposite way. And someone randomly saw me walking and I still don't know why they stopped because you never stopped and especially when it's dark out. You don't stop and say hey, do you need a ride? A guy in in a walking in a neighborhood you know Stop and offer people a ride. Someone stopped and said, Hey, do you need a ride? And they this guy says, Yeah, I need a ride back to my dorm. And they gave me a ride home when I was walking from the hospital back to campus, not much about that, that could have been so wrong and like I made it, okay. And then the next day, I found my car, it hit the truck, but they're like, didn't damage my car, and I hit the bumper and the truck looked okay, so and so that was the worst, that's probably the worst, because I could have ended up dead I could have been kidnapped, I could have, you know, just bent on the side of the road for eight hours, or it was just so much had to go that way for me to make it. And I did and, and I also had a friend who who didn't make it. And my friend Katie, she was also a journalist. In the journalism program, there UM. And she had type one diabetes. And she was fantastic. She was she was hired on the Kaiman as a freshman and great writer, had really good imagination, and was just a really cool person. And she also had type one diabetes. And we kind of bonded over that, because I did too. And we'd watch out over each other, whatever. And, but she had, she had a situation in her dorm. And she, she died in her dorm room from her diabetes. And I took classes when I was really close with her. And I've seen it, the worst of it. Jennifer Van Syckle 16:38 I dated a guy in college, he died at 25. From Ketoacidosis, same thing grad school, he had been struggling with it for a couple days, couldn't seem to snap out of it. So it's a disease that can be managed. But it should never be underestimated. Jake Sorich 16:57 Not Not Not at all. And it's another thing I wanted to say is that it affects more than just your health too. It's, it's your health, that you relationships, it's your financial health, it's it's your entire being can affect it. And especially if you don't manage it, you can be just totally in despair, all because of your diabetes. And, and I've I've struggled with certain parts of my life with all of that. And you it really is just my, when my grandma was alive, she always would say it's an insidious disease. And I wish nobody had it. And I'm sorry that you had an issue, it always kind of reminded me that what you're going through is difficult. And it's it's not an easy thing to manage. And I think it's Thankfully, there's people who help, there's a lot of people who can help you. And there is support, and there's a lot of education, and I think the technology these days is a lot better than it's ever been. So it's just it's difficult. And it's something I'm thinking about a lot always and it's just I, every day, every moment here, you know, it's like, Oh, how's my numbers? Go? I'm feeling tired. How are my numbers are? Oh, I just, I just want like, I just went upstairs and downstairs and I've got a little sweat, I should check my numbers. It's just it's a every moment kind of thing. Because if you don't, yeah, you're gonna, you can potentially end up harming yourself. Luckily, Jennifer Van Syckle 18:36 the old there. They used to be called diabetes educators. And now they're called diabetes care and education specialists. And every major hospital has them. A lot of our small clinics and hospitals have them. And if they don't have them locally, they can do virtual appointments with you. And they say there's four times to see a diabetes care and education specialist, if you've been recently diagnosed, annually appointments, if you have any new complications, and then if you have any other life changes, and I know that can include something like moving it can mean I switched my Medicare plans, you should see them to make sure that you're going to be on track with everything with you know, I had to change medications and keep up on it. And yeah, they can provide a lot registered nutritionists. Dieticians, too as far as eating and food but yeah, it's you know, it's hard enough for us to all go to the doctor once a year, which is something somebody with diabetes should do, especially because they're higher risk for retinopathy. But then you start thinking, Okay, you have to go for your annual appointment. You need to go for an eye doctor and now somebody with diabetes Yeah, they need to go see an endocrinologist you know if they can get into an a doc that specializes in this Diabetes Care and Education suddenly that's looking like a lot of time away from work or away from life. Right? Jake Sorich 19:53 Well, it is. It's it's necessary and I think what what I Wish, if I could go back in time and kind of change things as I wish I took it more serious when I or sooner, because I thought I was invincible, and I thought I was different. And I thought because I would get my A1c and see check. And it would be, you know, 6.5 I thought, Oh, well, I'm doing great. But even like, even, like 5.8, and it would, but the reason it would be 5.8, just because I would be 45, three nights one week, and then I would be at, you know, maybe 50. And I would wake up and I'd be kind of groggy, or I'd have to crawl to the fridge to get a thing of milk, you know, just so it was artificially low A1c. Yes. Which doesn't mean that you're handling it? Well, it just means that you're, you have the opposite problem is if you were not, if you were on the higher end, and so don't think that you can do it on your own. Because it's it's bigger than that. And it's it's tough to manage on your own. And there are resources out there and out there for a reason, because it is a difficult disease that really can take over your life if you don't, if you don't do it. Yeah, yeah. And Jennifer Van Syckle 21:21 I think we're always learning more about it, like you mentioned with A1c which is kind of like an average blood sugar. And so yeah, you could be spiking, super high, dropping super low. In my other career, I did ultrasound, and if you're a woman, you have major, major fetal complications in utero from those blood sugar spikes. And if your doctor doesn't realize to watch for those, instead of just looking at overall agency, because it averages out and it can hide those spikes. You could be Yeah, missing something big. So Jake, do you have like one of those continuous glucose monitors? Are you using that now? Or are the modern technology available or Jake Sorich 21:59 was and I will be, again, I'm kind of between getting things filled, and with the new job and everything, just kind of adjusting the prescriptions, and then what the insurance is going to pay how much they're going to pay for it all that fun stuff that you have to deal with. And I think that's one of my frustrations with the technology is that it's amazing. And we're making great strides in helping people with the the continuous glucose monitor, which is great. I love it. I have a tandem pump. I love it. It's been a life changer. But the issue right now with the technology is that it's not available to everyone that affordable prices, even if you have insurance. And it's really just heartbreaking because people should have this stuff. It's not like it's not made for a certain kind of people with diabetes, it's made for everyone shouldn't be made accessible for everyone who has diabetes. And so that's that's kind of another kind of diatribe that I often think about is, you know, these things are great, but are they helping the people that they should be helping? So but but yeah, I have had it, and I'm going to have it again soon. Jennifer Van Syckle 23:20 You make an excellent point. It's out of reach for so many. Jake, if Can I ask if you don't mind sharing? Do you know like what your diabetes costs you per month? Would you say? Like for medication or ballpark? What do you have to come up with that the average person isn't to cover your diabetes, Jake Sorich 23:36 right? So right now I'm paying about $90 for maybe a month supply of insulin. And then I've got my pump supplies, which are for three months, it's $400. And that's after insurance. And then if I have my CGM for the sensors, that's another $200 $300 for like four sensors per month. So that adds up, like Jennifer Van Syckle 24:10 three, four or $500 per month, I would guess, wow, that's out of reach for many. Jake Sorich 24:16 So you know, you have to make choices, unfortunately. And it's, you know, I figure I need, I need my infusion set, which, you know, it attaches the essentially it attaches the pump to your body. That's what the infusion site is for people who might not know. And then you have the cartridge, which goes in the pump, and that's what carries the insulin. And then the CGM is the continuous glucose, which tells you what your numbers are every five minutes at the pings and it shows the direction up and down and that your blood sugar levels are. So it's in my case, it was like well, I can hope I can prick my fingers. And that's more that's that's a viable alternative than not aren't using my pump at all because I need that infusion site. So that that's those are the type of choices I find myself making when when the costs do get kind of unreachable. But I've Jennifer Van Syckle 25:12 heard of people even kind of, what do they call it insulin sparing where they cut down their insulin doses to try and stretch it out? Yeah, Jake Sorich 25:20 it's just it's unfortunate. I don't blame anyone. And I know there's changes that have been made. And I'm very thankful for the people who are recognize the problem that the is caused by the high costs, but it it just it's, when it meets you, you're just you kind of really recognize that, wow, this, this is a new burden on top of having to deal with the condition. So hopeful that, you know, one day this, this stuff's going to be available to everyone, that's going to be even better. So So I, you know, I'm forever, not forever and optimistic. Yes. And there's Jennifer Van Syckle 26:00 whole programs here at the Department of Public Health and Human Services dedicated to trying to get, you know, better care for people and help things get in reach. And organizations like the Association of Diabetes Care and Education specialists in American Diabetes Association, that's campaigning hard. And we actually nowadays the I think it's the Montana youth Diabetes Association, or Alliance. They have a camp summer camp for kids that get diagnosed with diabetes. So there's more and more happening for sure. Jake, do you have any other stories that you want to share from your diabetes with your Jake Sorich 26:36 yeah, I've, you know, I've run the gamut with them. I, I found out sometimes that when I'm low, by will get aggressive. So Jennifer Van Syckle 26:48 more than just hangry like some of us have, we Jake Sorich 26:53 this was probably 10 ish years ago, or so I was, I was low and I woke up and I was starting to get kind of come to and for whatever reason, I looked at my kitchen window, and I decided to run through my kitchen window. And I shattered the glass, my arms were all scratched up. And so I had to replace the window. And I had to kind of heal myself and it was nothing major I didn't break anything I but it was kind of embarrassing because I had a broken window that I caused myself and even though I didn't really remember it so it was it was always the lows have been my kind of downfall is that I haven't been a person who's you know, kind of averages, you know, in the 200 words, or whatever I'm always done in the 60s and 50s is where I would get in trouble. Like I was saying earlier, you, you you learn from your mistakes, and I've made plenty of them with my diabetes. And I wish I could say I didn't and I wish I could say I was better about it, but But you know, you live and learn. And I feel like I'm in a good place now. And I feel like it's been something that definitely has been you're thrown into the deep end. And kind of you find help you find people who are your allies, and you you just kind of work to be the best you can and sometimes it's painful. Jennifer Van Syckle 28:25 It gives you a whole new appreciation for what it can do do to you. I mean it Jake Sorich 28:30 does and it's it was embarrassing at the time but I look at it as well i I've learned and I've grown from that and thankfully the damage wasn't worse. I don't know if like some sometimes you can be can be coming to some different person and if people aren't aware of your you're a diabetic they might think of you a lot differently and I've always made sure that people around me know him even even when I when I started at the library I said you know I am diabetic. I may act a little weird once in a while and if I do I need this or if I'm feeling tired, Jake check yourself Are you okay? And then I've have a lot of really good people around me who recognize that and they say Jake, are you okay? And it's been really good and like I said my my pump has been like a game changer it honestly has and you know, you know my mom even said to my grandma she said you know we were always a little worried about Jake but since he's got his pump he's you know, I feel less worried about him and it's really been excellent that it's been such a help to kind of controlling things. So that's that's really a nice thing that I wish I had sooner but um, but But yeah, so it's it can be maintained. It's just it's it's not easy to do. You Jennifer Van Syckle 30:01 got to stay on it constantly 24/7 job. Yeah. Do you have anybody in your family that has type one diabetes? I know sometimes there's a genetic component? Um, Jake Sorich 30:10 I do not in my immediate family, I do have family members who are type two diabetic, which is a different type of thing. But not my immediate family. My my extended family, I do have some people who are Type A type one diabetic. But yeah, it's it's always interesting. That type one diabetes, they're still not sure what causes it, like why someone gets it, and it's, you know, it's an immune disorder. So that's about all they know, they don't know that, well, if you do this x, or if they have some theories, you know, they, they have some theories with, well, if you're something to do if you're not breastfed enough, or something, but that's not really been proven, as far as I know. So we don't really know what causes type one diabetes, as much as type two, like, you can pretty much point to type two and say, well, this and this, and this will call us but but type one, it's kind of more of a mystery, and which is very interesting to me, like, why it causes you know, your, your, your own body to attack your own self. So, Jennifer Van Syckle 31:15 kind of advice would you give people newly diagnosed? Yeah, absolutely. Jake Sorich 31:19 So firstly, is obviously your, you know, listen to what the experts say, because they're going to give you a good starting point to go from, but recognize that it's, it's a really an emotional journey that you're going on, you're going to feel angry, you're going to ask yourself, why do I have this? What did I do to deserve to have this, those are all perfectly normal questions you're gonna ask. And that's just part of it, you work through the process to get through. But also know that there's support and also recognize the, the seriousness of it and, and be be mindful that, that you can you can get through it. And you can manage it, you can have a normal life, you got to make just you have to make adjustments, and you have to be committed to those adjustments. And you'll, you'll be okay, Jennifer Van Syckle 32:18 what are some of the adjustments that you would say, are the biggest that people have to adjust to when they get diagnosed? Jake Sorich 32:27 Definitely your diet. That's, and it's, it's not even that will go I can't eat cake ever again, or I can't have soda ever again. It's it's being very deliberate in what you eats. And knowing you know, how many carbs you're eating versus how much insulin you're taking the cover, and knowing how to count carbs. And knowing when you go out to a restaurant, feeling comfortable to ask the waiter saying, do you do have any dietary information on these meals? Just this types of things that you wouldn't normally do. Because if you're don't have diabetes, or diabetes, you're gonna go out to a restaurant, enjoy a lasagna and not think anything that's gonna mess up your evening. So you have to kind of get over a fear of meals, if you have it, especially at first, it depends on what if you get a pump, you know, and then maybe not necessarily, but you do have to poke yourself, if you're poking your finger, you're taking injections. So it's unless you have a pump and a CGM, then you're you don't have to do those. So that's nice, but But it's something to recognize where you might have to kind of get used to that and, and just kind of know that there's going to be big changes and how you feel it can can affect your emotions. So if your blood sugar's at 72, and you're feeling like you, you're cranky, or angry or whatever, check yourself always and it's just kind of learn to understand yourself, and what your body is telling you. And but also know that you might feel like you're low, still check yourself because you might not be you know, it's your just because you feel it doesn't mean it's true. I've had that lots happen a lot where I feel, Oh, well, I'm feeling low, I'm going to eat this Skittles, and then I checked myself, and then I was 320. So, you know, don't always trust how you feel. Jennifer Van Syckle 34:36 Yeah, fantastic. And good appreciation for for all of that and what everyone with type one diabetes has to do. Absolutely. Well, definitely a lot of great information, Jake. And we really appreciate you being willing to share everything and your story and especially hypoglycemia. I have a newfound appreciation for that after listening to your story tonight. On behalf of myself and our podcast crew behind the scenes, we want to give a huge thank you to Jake for stepping forward and volunteering to share his story and life with type one diabetes. He's had some interesting experiences. And thank you for listening to this episode of Talking Health in the 406 wherever one community under the Big Sky. If you'd like more information on what was heard today, visit our website at talkinghealthinthe406.mt.gov. And if you haven't already, be sure and like, subscribe and share our podcast with your friends and loved ones. And until next time, take care Transcribed by https://otter.ai